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“Oh hi, Tyson,” I said, slightly startled. “We were just talking about you.”
Tyson Neighbors, the star closer from Kansas State, had appeared at my shoulder suddenly and completely noiselessly. He was shorter than the other pitchers I’d interviewed at the draft combine, not much taller than six-foot, but with the kind of upside-down triangle body you’d expect from someone who’d been a standout linebacker in high school.
In 2023, his sophomore season at K-State, Neighbors had struck out nearly two batters an inning and won All-America honors for holding opponents to a .135 batting average. He’s one of the top reliever prospects in this year’s draft.
All of that made the expression on his face hilariously incongruous. He was staring at Eric Longenhagen’s laptop, wearing the exact mix of curiosity and excitement you’ll see from a kindergartener who’s about to ask if you have games on your phone.
I don’t really go to the MLB Draft Combine to watch the players work out. That’s what Eric is there for, and Travis Ice. I was there because, throughout the course of the week, prospects are made available for interviews. It’s a press junket, the likes of which I attended frequently when I was covering TV earlier in my career. While I talked to the players who came through our suite, Eric was usually either behind me or down at field level watching the action.
Neighbors had been added to my dance card late. And in contrast to other prospects, whom I’d seen play either on TV or in person, I’d never actually watched Neighbors pitch. I had about a page’s worth of questions scribbled in my notepad, but in the few minutes I had between interviews, I’d turned around and asked Eric what else I should know about my next subject.
That’s how Neighbors was able to sneak up on me; I had my back to the door as Eric was looking at a spreadsheet on his laptop, telling me, among other things, that Neighbors had a whiff rate of 73% on his slider in 2024.
Neighbors immediately wanted to know where that ranked in Division I (near the top among pitchers who threw a slider that much), and lamented a couple cheap home runs he’d given up this past year to hitters using aluminum bats. One against Texas went out at just 88 mph, he said, while another — a three-run home run at Arkansas — came off the bat at 91 mph.
“I was like, ‘I’m making good pitches!’ ” Neighbors said. “And it’s not showing that way.”
He also expressed concern that his cutter, which he throws maybe 5% of the time, was getting tagged as the wrong pitch type. “They probably get tagged as a fastball, because I threw a couple ride cutters at, like, 15 to 17 [inches] of induced vertical break. I got one that was -7 horizontal, which is ridiculous,” Neighbors explained. “If I could throw that every time I’d be Kenley Jansen. The other ones were, like, 12 to 14 IVB and -2, -3 horizontal.”
This is not how pitchers talked about their craft when I was Neighbors’ age. But that’s how Neighbors understands and talks about his game. So does Wake Forest junior right-hander Michael Massey, who’s also considering adding a cutter to his repertoire.
These days, adding a new pitch is like buying a suit. You start with measurements as a starting point, and only then can you adjust for fit and feel. “Does it fit in the arsenal — ride fastball down to a gyro slider and then a curveball?” Massey explained. “If we throw the cutter, we want it to have, say, 10 vert and -2 to -3 horizontal. You start there, and then, well do we want eight vert? Like, where do we want this to be? After that, we have the idea of the pitch. How do we get it to move that way? How do we mess with seam orientation?”
Across the various interviews I did at the combine, I was struck by how many players expressed an academic interest in math and science. Every ballplayer has his own tolerance of and curiosity for data, but modern coaching — especially pitching coaching — is heavy on hard science. A pitching prospect doesn’t need a master’s in biomechanics or applied physics, but it’s easier to learn when you can speak intelligently with people who do.
“I’ve always been a nerd on the analytics side,” Neighbors said. “Pitch shape, pitch type, and all that stuff.”
Massey also used that word — nerd — to describe himself. “I wanted to go to school to be an engineer,” he said. “Sophomore year of high school, I was like, ‘I’ve got a real chance to be valedictorian. I want to do this.’ Then that summer, I go to summer ball and schools start talking to me. And [maybe] I’d be putting my eggs in the wrong basket if I try to be valedictorian. I know I’m smart enough to do well in school, but baseball is kind of where I need to put my time.”
You wouldn’t know it from watching Massey on the mound, where he pitches with flaring nostrils and an expression of bug-eyed rage. He says it’s an affectation, the product of psyching himself up to compete, and he’s calm and methodical off the field.
“I’ve had many people tell me I turn into a different person on the mound,” he said. “Some people see me and say, ‘Watching you pitch, I think you’re a mean guy. Then I talked to you and you’re not.’ I didn’t get that until after my sophomore year. I guess when I’m in a competitive state, I’m just focused on the task at hand.”
Massey started this season as the Sunday starter on the preseason no. 1 team in the country, a potential late first-round pick, but a back injury knocked him out of the rotation as Wake had an up-and-down season. The difference between starting and not could mean a difference of tens of millions of dollars over Massey’s career, maybe more, so one of the first questions I asked was how he’d addressed that issue in his interviews with teams.
Massey expressed confidence in his ability to start: “I think my arsenal holds up as a starter,” he said. “The one thing I have to get more consistent with is the changeup and/or splitter, depending on which route I want to go with that, but I think I’ll have time to work on that.”
From there, he explained why a more pedagogical minor league environment might help him refine his offspeed stuff and explained how he’s comfortable applying his Vulcan changeup grip mid-windup. “It’d be hard for me to pre-grip a pitch I’d be throwing at a 10% to 15% clip anyway,” he said.
Massey spent about two minutes detailing the particulars of his changeup with only a brief interruption from me. Neighbors gave a similarly long and detailed answer when I asked how he’d developed his slider. It’s not just about the slider, he said. It’s about how the pitch tunnels with his fastball, which began as a two-seamer at about 2,600 rpm with a lower arm angle and evolved into his current four-seamer.
Neighbors said he started out as just “a thrower” until a friend introduced him to analytics. “I just went down the rabbit hole,” Neighbors said. “Anything I could find on YouTube, just straight up on the internet, calling previous coaches to see if they have any contacts at the big league level. You got a bunch of those numbers, but not every time do we know what they mean. So I’m even trying to learn about numbers where we don’t see a correlation right now but could possibly see one in the future.”
In scientific terms, Neighbors, with his voracious appetite for new information from any source, is like a theoretician. Massey comes across as more of an experimentalist, trying to drill down on specific processes to find a particular outcome. Massey went to Tulane out of high school…
